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		<title>By: Rachel Laudan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Laudan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Susan.  That all makes sense.  And in the same way it bothers me to use an oven to bake a few vegetables or roast one or two potatoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Susan.  That all makes sense.  And in the same way it bothers me to use an oven to bake a few vegetables or roast one or two potatoes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ji-Young Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ji-Young Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They were used for Japanese style tempura. Korean style battered and fried vegetables are shallow-fried, not deep fried. So, my parents tended to view deep-fried tempura as an extravagant, indulgent use of cooking at oil at home. It still kind of bothers them.

Fried foods were usually reserved for special occasions. It wasn&#039;t until the 1980s that they started to become a more regular feature of home cooking in South Korea. That&#039;s also about the time that deep-fried street foods started proliferating. I&#039;m stunned at how popular Koreanized fried chicken as become over there and in Los Angeles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were used for Japanese style tempura. Korean style battered and fried vegetables are shallow-fried, not deep fried. So, my parents tended to view deep-fried tempura as an extravagant, indulgent use of cooking at oil at home. It still kind of bothers them.</p>
<p>Fried foods were usually reserved for special occasions. It wasn&#8217;t until the 1980s that they started to become a more regular feature of home cooking in South Korea. That&#8217;s also about the time that deep-fried street foods started proliferating. I&#8217;m stunned at how popular Koreanized fried chicken as become over there and in Los Angeles.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Laudan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Laudan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a ton, Ji-Young.  I didn&#039;t even know that the South Koreans did tonkatsu.  Learn something everyday.  And what were the panko used for, if not things such as tonkatsu?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a ton, Ji-Young.  I didn&#8217;t even know that the South Koreans did tonkatsu.  Learn something everyday.  And what were the panko used for, if not things such as tonkatsu?</p>
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		<title>By: Ji-Young Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ji-Young Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Tonkatsu, it&#039;s a Japanese influence in South Korea and it was almost exclusively a restaurant dish until packaged versions became available in supermarkets. I don&#039;t know how much has change in the past 7 or years since I&#039;ve been back to South Korea, but I never saw boneless chicken breast or pork cuts that could be made into tonkatsu at home in markets that catered to Koreans. Korean markets used to sell exclusively Korean cuts for grilling, braising, stewing and such. 

Funny thing is packaged panko (Japanese breadcrumbs, the texture seems shaved or shredded, rather than ground or pulverized) were pretty commonly available in stores before sliced white bread became widely available in European style bakeries in South Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Tonkatsu, it&#8217;s a Japanese influence in South Korea and it was almost exclusively a restaurant dish until packaged versions became available in supermarkets. I don&#8217;t know how much has change in the past 7 or years since I&#8217;ve been back to South Korea, but I never saw boneless chicken breast or pork cuts that could be made into tonkatsu at home in markets that catered to Koreans. Korean markets used to sell exclusively Korean cuts for grilling, braising, stewing and such. </p>
<p>Funny thing is packaged panko (Japanese breadcrumbs, the texture seems shaved or shredded, rather than ground or pulverized) were pretty commonly available in stores before sliced white bread became widely available in European style bakeries in South Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel,  

I&#039;ve been on line looking unsuccessfully for a description/recipe which we&#039;ve been making in my Italian family for 3 generations called Rovellini (sp?).  It&#039;s very thinly slice round or flank steak, pounded, then egged, breaded, and fried.  It&#039;s served either dry with lemon, or baked in a seasoned tomato sauce. Could this be a regional name/recipe?  Would like any info you could give me.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve been on line looking unsuccessfully for a description/recipe which we&#8217;ve been making in my Italian family for 3 generations called Rovellini (sp?).  It&#8217;s very thinly slice round or flank steak, pounded, then egged, breaded, and fried.  It&#8217;s served either dry with lemon, or baked in a seasoned tomato sauce. Could this be a regional name/recipe?  Would like any info you could give me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Laudan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Laudan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you enjoyed it Chris.  The more I think about it, the more it seems to me it was European food for those who did not yet have enclosed ranges/ovens.  
Nice blog you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you enjoyed it Chris.  The more I think about it, the more it seems to me it was European food for those who did not yet have enclosed ranges/ovens.<br />
Nice blog you have.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed your post.  I found this after my wife brought home a cut for Milanesa, which I&#039;ve never made or had.  Your post satisfied a good bit about my curiosity of the origins.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed your post.  I found this after my wife brought home a cut for Milanesa, which I&#8217;ve never made or had.  Your post satisfied a good bit about my curiosity of the origins.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Laudan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Laudan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindy, the breading in Japan is fascinating.  Thanks for bringing it up. I&#039;ve never had clear ideas about it.  

Adam, how intriguing that there&#039;s such a gap between breaded fried things and collops or escalopes in the eighteenth century.  Bears mulling over. It&#039;s just one more of the many cases where culinary innovations that in retrospect seem obvious were just never made at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cindy, the breading in Japan is fascinating.  Thanks for bringing it up. I&#8217;ve never had clear ideas about it.  </p>
<p>Adam, how intriguing that there&#8217;s such a gap between breaded fried things and collops or escalopes in the eighteenth century.  Bears mulling over. It&#8217;s just one more of the many cases where culinary innovations that in retrospect seem obvious were just never made at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Balic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Balic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crumbing meat and frying it, isn&#039;t that different to crumbing meat and basting it on a spit roast. The end effect is near identical. One thing that changed in the UK during the 19th century was the fireplace and the development of the modern stove. Fireplaces became much more narrow, so a horizontal spit for roasting became impractical. This resulted in a lot of formally common cooking techniques being dropped, one of which was the breading, dredging, frothing etc. My guess would be that in adapting to the new cooking equipment, frying became much more important on a domestic level then formally.

Never the less, you find breaded fried items in the 18th century:

Veal Cutlets. 1792. YOUR cutlets mufl be about the thicknefsof a half crown ; but the length of them is of no confe- quence. Dip them in the yolk of an egg, and ftrew over them crumbs of bread, a few fweet herbs, fome lemon peel, and a little gra-ted nutmeg. Fry them in frefh butter.

To fry Soles. 1769. Skin your Soles as you do Eels, but keep on. their Heads, rub them over with an Egg, and ftrew over them Bread Crumbs, fry them over a brifk Fire in Hogs-lard a light Brown, ferve them up with good melted Butter, and garnifh it with green Pickles.

To fry Eels. 1796. Cut one or two eels in pieces; cue out the back bone, and fcore it on both fides; marinade it an hour in vinegar, with parfley, diced onions, fhal- lots, and four cloves; then drain it, bafte it with eggs and bread crumbs, fry it of a good colour; garnifh with fried parfley, and ferve with a,relifliing fauce in a fauce- boat.

To Fry Tripe. 1770.  Cut your Tripe into Pieces about three or four Inches &quot;long; dip them in the Yolk of an Egg, and a few Crumbs .of Bread; fry them very brown ; then take them out of your Pan, and lay them in a Difh to drain. Have another Difh, that is warm, ready to put them in, and ferve them up, with Butter and Muftard in a Cup

Sheeps Rumps with Parmefan Cheefe. 1737. PU T your Sheeps Rumps in a good Braiie, as before, and when done, put them to cool; then take fome Crumbs of Bread very fine, and as much Parmefan Cheefe mixed together, then take your Rumps and dip them in Eggs, and put the Crumbs of Bread and Parmefan Cheefe over ; and if you find that once doing over is not enough, do them twice, and fry them in good Hog&#039;s Lard of a good Colour, and ferve them with fried Parfley.

What is interesting is that the range of dishes breaded and fried is restricted compared to what we would see in the 19th century. In the 18th century there are thousands of recipes for &quot;collops&quot; (= &quot;escalope&quot; = &quot;slice&quot;) of veal, beef or lamb and many recipes for breaded fried things, but rarely and breaded fried collops, which seems obvious, but apparently isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crumbing meat and frying it, isn&#8217;t that different to crumbing meat and basting it on a spit roast. The end effect is near identical. One thing that changed in the UK during the 19th century was the fireplace and the development of the modern stove. Fireplaces became much more narrow, so a horizontal spit for roasting became impractical. This resulted in a lot of formally common cooking techniques being dropped, one of which was the breading, dredging, frothing etc. My guess would be that in adapting to the new cooking equipment, frying became much more important on a domestic level then formally.</p>
<p>Never the less, you find breaded fried items in the 18th century:</p>
<p>Veal Cutlets. 1792. YOUR cutlets mufl be about the thicknefsof a half crown ; but the length of them is of no confe- quence. Dip them in the yolk of an egg, and ftrew over them crumbs of bread, a few fweet herbs, fome lemon peel, and a little gra-ted nutmeg. Fry them in frefh butter.</p>
<p>To fry Soles. 1769. Skin your Soles as you do Eels, but keep on. their Heads, rub them over with an Egg, and ftrew over them Bread Crumbs, fry them over a brifk Fire in Hogs-lard a light Brown, ferve them up with good melted Butter, and garnifh it with green Pickles.</p>
<p>To fry Eels. 1796. Cut one or two eels in pieces; cue out the back bone, and fcore it on both fides; marinade it an hour in vinegar, with parfley, diced onions, fhal- lots, and four cloves; then drain it, bafte it with eggs and bread crumbs, fry it of a good colour; garnifh with fried parfley, and ferve with a,relifliing fauce in a fauce- boat.</p>
<p>To Fry Tripe. 1770.  Cut your Tripe into Pieces about three or four Inches &#8220;long; dip them in the Yolk of an Egg, and a few Crumbs .of Bread; fry them very brown ; then take them out of your Pan, and lay them in a Difh to drain. Have another Difh, that is warm, ready to put them in, and ferve them up, with Butter and Muftard in a Cup</p>
<p>Sheeps Rumps with Parmefan Cheefe. 1737. PU T your Sheeps Rumps in a good Braiie, as before, and when done, put them to cool; then take fome Crumbs of Bread very fine, and as much Parmefan Cheefe mixed together, then take your Rumps and dip them in Eggs, and put the Crumbs of Bread and Parmefan Cheefe over ; and if you find that once doing over is not enough, do them twice, and fry them in good Hog&#8217;s Lard of a good Colour, and ferve them with fried Parfley.</p>
<p>What is interesting is that the range of dishes breaded and fried is restricted compared to what we would see in the 19th century. In the 18th century there are thousands of recipes for &#8220;collops&#8221; (= &#8220;escalope&#8221; = &#8220;slice&#8221;) of veal, beef or lamb and many recipes for breaded fried things, but rarely and breaded fried collops, which seems obvious, but apparently isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Bertelsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Bertelsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Japanese breading? I know next to nothing about Japanese cooking, but is suddenly occurs to me that the Japanese way with breading might of interest, too, though my off-the top-of-my-head guess leans toward breading being something they learned from the Portuguese, who learned it from????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Japanese breading? I know next to nothing about Japanese cooking, but is suddenly occurs to me that the Japanese way with breading might of interest, too, though my off-the top-of-my-head guess leans toward breading being something they learned from the Portuguese, who learned it from????</p>
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